Sunday, June 14, 2015

SIP Horsepower Dyno

Program I am playing with attempts to estimate a HP curve by listening to the RPM and having you input gear ratios and weights:

http://www.siphorsepowerdyno.de/siphorsepowerdyno_en/home.html

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821522

One of my runs:



Leak Down Test on Original Motor


The rule I learned, was that if you sealed the intake and exhaust, a 2 stroke motor should hold 5 lbs for 5 minutes.


The original motor doesn't fair too well on the leak down test. I guess I shouldn't expect anything from 35 year old seals.


Hand pump to generate the 5 psi:


Leak down gauge to measure the result:


Into the cylinder:


Test tube rubber stopper clamped in the exhaust port:


And and intake part that has been sealed with plumbers Goop. I just filled the whole turn down:


I also did a straight cylinder compression leak down test with the piston at top dead center, to test the original rings. It lost pressure quickly, so much, I didn't bother to record the data. 

Using the wind up starter, I was able to get up to 100 psi on a compression gauge.

The original motor was running, I was using it. On a good day I would get 28 mph. If I reverse this into RPM, it would be 7234.









Notes on the Stock Motor


1978 HONDA NC50'78 EXPRESS

NC50

A 49 cc scooter which was manufactured from 1977 until 1983, it featured an air-cooled 2-stroke engine. The versions from 1977 until 1980 had a manual chokepoints ignition, and a spring starter. Versions from 1980 onwards included a kick startcapacitor discharge ignition, and automatic choke as well as an improved compression ratio. Most versions include an automatic one speed transmission with a centrifugal clutch, double suspension, and oil injection. Two speed automatic transmissions were introduced towards the end of their production run.
  • ENGINE
    • Engine: 49cc 2-stroke single cylinder
    • Bore 40mm
    • Stroke 39.6mm
    • Compression Ratio 6.5:1
    • The engine was lubricated by oil injection.
    • Spark plug: BP4HS
    • Plug gap: .028
    • The ignition was controlled by breaker points.
    • It also had a manual choke.
    • The starting system used a wind-up spring.
    • Battery: 6N4-2A-6 (see also 6N4-2A-8)
  • DRIVETRAIN
    • Transmission: only one speed
  • CHASSIS / SUSPENSION / BRAKES
    • N/A
  • DIMENSION
    • N/A
  • OTHER
    • Colors:
      • Parakeet Yellow
      • Pal Green
      • Mars Orange
    • It had a two-tone black and white solo seat.
    • The downtube featured a logo change with the name "EXPRESS"
    • Serial number began NC50-2000013.

Rear Wheel Diameter, approximate 18.5”
Rear Wheel Circumference 58.2” (pi * diameter = pi * 18.5)

I measure a little over 58.25



The stock tires are 2.25 - 14. The 14 gives us the rim diameter, 14 inches. The 2.25, the way I understand it is that this gives an imaginary circle sitting on the rim, representing the tire:


And we know the tires are not ideal circles. In the case of the stock tires, 2.25 - 14, we would expect the outside diameter of the tire to be 14 inches + 2 x 2.25 = 18.5 inches. Then the circumference would be 18.5 inches x pi = 58.12 inches. In the ballpark of what we measured.




Gear Ratio 14.220/1


Service manual also gives the Gear Ratio as 14.220 : 1

MPH = (RPM * WheelCirc/GearRatio * ft / 12inches * mile / 5280 ft * 60 mins/hour)

38.7 MPH = 10000rpm * 18.5 * pi  ÷ 14.220 ÷ 12 ÷ 5280 * 60

Gear Ratio that SIP wants is the Gear Ratio (14.220) divided by the tire circumference in meters (18.5” is 0.4699) which is 30.2617

Old engine 100psi of compression
Seals leak down within a minute

Some additional information from https://sites.google.com/site/vpcrabtree/home/honda-nc50-tuning

Measured ParameterValue
Bore40
Stroke39.6
Con Rod Length80mm (est)
Number of Transfer ports2 plus 1 boost
Main transfer Height6mm
Main transfer chord width17mm
Boost port height6mm
Boost port chord width17mm
Exhaust port Height9mm
Exhaust port chord width19mm
Reeds Cage2 petals, 10 by 20mm windows
Carb dia12mm
Exhaust TypePlain Muffler
Combustion chamber volume7cc
Squish Clearance~1.5mm
Compression Ratio~6.6



Wednesday, June 3, 2015

Ultrasonic Analyzer

I use FFT iPhone programs to find my peak RPM. I have a new find that is much better than the ones I was using, Ultrasonic Analyzer. Right now I am turning about 9660 rpm, 60 * 161Hz.

Tuesday, June 2, 2015

Jet down to 74

Jetting down to a 74 main on the Dellorto SHA 15.15 carb. I've been very cautious about approaching a good main jet size, starting very rich.